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Friday, December 07, 2007

Senate Hears of Homecoming Dance Sex, Drinking


Leadership Advisor Francis Rojas
addresses senators while ASB
President Kirsten Ignacio looks on.
Jennifer Weiss/Courier Photo
Courier Staff Report

Discussion of drunkeness and sexual behavior at the Homecoming Dance and what to do about it dominated the first Student Senate meeting of the year Thursday.

Sexual activity at the dance was so widespread that the Pavilion in which the dance was held smelled of sexual activity, Associated Student Body President Kirsten Joyce Ignacio told the assembled senators during the second period meeting, using a slang term for the female genitive organ. Ignacio added that she believed most dance goers got drunk before attending.

Several attendees told The Courier that they saw couples having sex on the dance floor at the dance, held October 27. One told The Courier that she saw girls who had removed their tops and exposed their breasts while "cupcaking" during the dance. Another said her friend's dress was stained by an airborne by-product of one couple's sexual activity.

During discussion of the behavior at the dance, senators, selected from their second period classes, told similar stories of drunken and licentious behavior.

An "orgy circle" was described in which students performed sexual acts while surrounded by students urging them on.

Senators were presented with several options to consider for cleaning up the behavior at dances, including canceling future dances, but the group opted for a less drastic proposal to educate the student body as to what behaviors are appropriate and inappropriate at the dance.

Toward that end, the senators were shown a clip from a video that aimed to combat the "hip hop" culture that seems to glorify women as purely sexual objects.

Posted by courier at 13:20:14. Filed under: News

Comments

Simply dancing at a school dance is boring. What do they expect us to do? There's no video games, no wireless signal, no MTV. Without those things to keep our attention, of course, we're going to start finding more creative ways of dancing. And before I learned how to dance like that, I had really low self-esteem about my dancing. But, at Homecoming, I "danced" with several boys who all said that I was a great dancer. What a boost to my self-image. I can't wait for the next dance, so I can "dance" with some more people.

Posted by L0g4nG1rl at Friday, December 07, 2007 13:53:47

i believe that the president did a good job by interacting with the students on a more personal and down to earth level. she is just open, and by "using a rather crude term for the female genitive organ", well...its SLANG! duhhh.

as for the meeting in general i think its a good change. the positive meesage the leadership students are giving out helps students like us realize how the decisions we make are based upon our own self, and basically we need to respect ourselves as well as others.

not being a leadership student, i thought it was a good senate meeting. its the fisrt senate meeting where it focused on how we as students feel. I hope this change continues and we can expect more from these types of meetings.

PS: you need to focus more on what the point of the meeting was, instead of focusing your attention to the negative aspects of it. (although i felt there weren't any)

Posted by Sean at Friday, December 07, 2007 15:11:39

Courier Staff: thank you for the coverage of our first meeting.

Sean, thank you also for appreciating the change we're trying to make happen.

However, I'm quite concerned that as one of the facilitators of the meeting, I did not hear any of this in our discussion:

"Similar stories of drunken and licentious behavior, describing acts of sexual intercourse they saw. An "orgy circle" was described in which students performed sexual acts while surrounded by students urging them on."

Activity such as sexual intercourse or "orgy circle" is quite disturbing and has no place at our school dances. If true, it will result in the dance being shut down. We will not tolerate this type of activity. That's extremely disgusting.

Posted by Mr. Rojas at Friday, December 07, 2007 17:26:40

Note: Three Courier staffers attended the meeting and reported the nature of the discussion.

In addition, The Courier interviewed more than a dozen students who attended the dance who related seeing sexual acts performed on the dance floor, some providing details more graphic than The Courier will report.

Posted by The Courier at Friday, December 07, 2007 17:42:24

don't be niave, Mr. Rojas. K.J. said the Pavillon smelled like coochie! Were do u think that smell comes from? i saw a girl pull up her skirt and ride her boyfriend right there!!!!

Posted by Ewwww! at Friday, December 07, 2007 17:58:46

It was leadership's way of trying to help out the school. rather than cancelling ever other dance, they decided to involve the rest of the school in their decision making, to try to help the students realize what their actions really portray.

Thursday's senate meeting was not to talk about the kind of extensive misbehavior at the hoemecoming dance, but to help students understand what their actions mean. Mr. Rojas simply tried to get student imput, so hopefully, Winterball turns out a lot diffrently, better, we should even hope for.

i believe the courier exaggerated many aspects of this article regarding the true intentions of the Student Senate Meeting.

Posted by supergirl at Friday, December 07, 2007 21:26:26

WOW! great topic! i'm glad we have those meetings now and that one person can go there and come bak and report stuff to us! i liked how dj told us all about it in math today! she really spoke about it to us in a teenage form. it was really interesting listening to all of that! i mean, wow! i cant believe people actually do that kinda "stuff" wink wink, at dances! i remember people last eyar wrote an artical on how they want dances to happen and how they wonder y noone really wants to go! well lets see, r poeple going to a dance or a bedroom! goshness people! things r out of control! funny, but wrong!! its a hilaarious thing that peopl would even do that at a dance! A DANCE!! wow. they dont mind doing it there, oh my! this is crazy! it really is. well anyways, good job on the meetings. good job dj 4 reporting to us, jus next time dont have attitude wen people have questions and u dont know the answer, jus say i dont know but let me write it down so i can ask them next time!.........YAY! :)

Posted by mepod at Friday, December 07, 2007 21:41:23

The meeting was to let everyone know what was going on to hopefully prevent it from happening again. The principals and everyone wanted to cancel our dances, but Mr. Rojas couldnt let that happen because he cares for us and he wants us to have fun without getting in trouble and into that situation and stuff. I believe that Kirsten-Joyce did a good job talking to us during the meeting, I don't see any problem. She uses slang because that's how everyone talks, am I right? I think Mr Rojas and Kirsten-Joyce and everyone else that was in charge of that meeting did an excellent job. There trying to look out for us, because there on our side rather than the adminstrators who think shutting down the dances will solve everything. Mr Rojas and KirstenJoyce as well as leadership is trying to help everyone out to make this school a better and safe place for everyone to feel comfortable, besides home, schools is the 2nd place your mostly at. Secondly, I think that the courier is taking this out of control saying that there was an orgy circle, "An "orgy circle" was described in which students performed sexual acts while surrounded by students urging them on." why wont you be specific and say what kind of sexual acts because you guys are making it sound disgusting like to a far level. The Courier needs to appreciate what people are trying to do for this school, and stop trying to make people look bad and put people down. It's not necessary. These meetings are to let the students know whats going on, right? So Mr Rojas and the ASB President can connect with us because they want our input on whats going on and what would be better for OUR school....

Posted by Alyssa. at Friday, December 07, 2007 23:33:29

WOW. SHUT UP

Posted by irritated student at Saturday, December 08, 2007 00:12:51

The Courier has exaggerated nothing in this article. Many of you seem to think that this article has cast the senate meeting in a negative light. How has it done so? The Courier specifically mentioned that “Senators were presented with several options to consider for cleaning up the behavior at dances, including canceling future dances, but the group opted for a less drastic proposal to educate the student body as to what behaviors are appropriate and inappropriate at the dance.” Not only does this article acknowledge the goals of the student senate meetings, but it also shows that our leadership is trying to work in the students’ best interest. If anything, The Courier is highlighting one of the better aspects of our school by showing how the students are willing to work with the administration to create a safer, friendlier environment.

What everyone seems to be concerned with is the description of activities that occurred during the homecoming dance. I personally believe that all accounts mentioned have truth to them. From past experiences with dances and members of our student body, it is all-to-easy to believe what has been clearly stated in this article. Security at dances is lax; last year at Senior Ball, many couples easily managed to sneak in dates over the age of 21, which was prohibited, as well as alcohol. At Junior Prom last year, a friend of mine entered the dance without even having her purse checked, which could have easily contained alcohol. Many teachers while supervising have said that they have had to personally speak to students about inappropriate behavior with significant couples. Ms. Noche, who often brings her daughter with her to prom while supervising, had to tell her daughter to look away while she went to speak to a couple who were practically having sex at one of the tables.

We all know that is fun to get intimate and close on the dance floor, and it is fine - to an extent. However, when it gets to the point where you would be embarrassed to have a ten-year-old, a teacher, or your mother watch you, then things have certainly gone too far. Not to mention that having sex in public is illegal, as well as indecent exposure. There shouldn’t even be a need to go so far at a school dance. It is, after all, A SCHOOL DANCE. Does anyone really want to be known as the kid who got so drunk that they flashed everyone in the middle of homecoming/winter ball/prom? I know that I wouldn’t.

Anyway, back to my original point. The Courier is not trying to make anyone look bad. Those who feel as though The Courier is bad-mouthing them are probably the same people who already made complete idiots of themselves by behaving in an inappropriate and immature manner. The Courier has not, and will not ever purposely portray someone in a negative manner. Our job is to bring you the news and only the news. That means no opinions (unless it happens to be a review of some sort, or an Opinion piece).

The Courier has done a wonderful job in covering the first student senate meeting as well as shedding some more insight on recent events that could potentially affect everyone.

Posted by PrettyWoman at Saturday, December 08, 2007 00:32:45

I agree with the people who said Mr. Rojas and KJ are both doing a great job.

The fact that all of this actually happened at the dance is simply just disgusting. I think it's crazy because of the four years I was there, I don't think I've heard of anything this drastic going on. Obviously it was bad enough for the admin to consider to cancel all dances.

I also agree with PrettyWoman. The problem with the age 21 thing at the Senior Ball last year was that Montoya never officially announced it as a rule -- not that I know of or remember, at least. It was only done by students going to Montoya and him telling them personally. To me, that "rule" has its pros and cons, but I won't get into the details of that right now.

Easily, anyone could've snuck anyone in and anything in. I was surprised at the admin's lack of responsibility when they made it seem like they were so serious about all these "rules."

Security needs to be done much, MUCH better at the dances. If most attendees got drunk before they went, why were they even allowed into the Pavilion? It can't possibly be THAT hard to tell whether someone has been drinking or not.

I'm not entirely blaming in these situations at the admin because students are also at fault. However, the admin does hold some responsibilities.

In the end, I hope that there will be an answer to help solve this issue that most people will agree with.

And by the way, I, too, don't think the Courier is exaggerating. Facts are facts.

Posted by Carmen at Saturday, December 08, 2007 13:32:19

"Secondly, I think that the courier is taking this out of control saying that there was an orgy circle, "An "orgy circle" was described in which students performed sexual acts while surrounded by students urging them on." why wont you be specific and say what kind of sexual acts because you guys are making it sound disgusting like to a far level. "

lol!!!! how dumb can you get?

Posted by wow at Saturday, December 08, 2007 22:25:03

Hopefully the future dances that we have will go better (=

Posted by cooooooolgirl. at Sunday, December 09, 2007 16:36:38

we can express our opinions prettywoman(unepr), and carmen is right facts are facts. iff people are having an orgy circl, can u say u saw scrabble going on? uh, no!

Posted by mepod at Sunday, December 09, 2007 23:02:10

I BELIEVE THAT WHAT KJ HAD TO SAY WAS RIGHT. SHE WAS SPEAKING TO US, AND CONNECTING WITH US. SHE WASNT TRYNA BE FAKE ABOUT ANYTHING. SHE WAS SPEAKING AS IF IT WERE FOR ALL OF US. I DONT THINK SHE WAS WRONG FOR THAT. IT WAS HER WAY OF EXPRESSING US TEENS, OF HOW WE ARE NOWADAYS. I DONT EVEN THINK IT WAS REALLY A "SEXUAL CONTACT" BECAUSE THERE WASNT ANY INTERCOURSE GOING ON. YEAH, IT MIGHT HAVE SMELT LIKE THAT SEXUAL ACTIVITY ON THE DANCE FLOOR, BUT ITS BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS BO!!!! AND THEY SWEAT... SO I DONT KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT? WE JUST WANNA HAVE FUN!!!!!! WERE YOU GUYS EVEN AT THE DANCE TO PROVE THIS? I DONT THINK SO... NEXT TIME TAKE A VIDEO OR POST UP SOME PICTURES FOR EVIDENCE.

Posted by jjrr at Monday, December 10, 2007 09:33:18

wow

Posted by wtf at Monday, December 10, 2007 10:18:54

We feel that the Senate meeting was a great success. We all truly believe that the ones who wrote this article intentionally wrote this to be malicious towards those who tried to fix the problems at the dance. For those who believe Mr. Rojas is "niave"you are the soul purpose why they cancel dances. Mr.Rojas is simply trying to understand us and be reasonable. KJ did an excellent job at the senate meeting. Yea she may have said a derogatory word for "vagina" but come on we all know what she was trying to explain. So for all those who are trying to add fuel to the fire, stop, you need to understand that you must be the solution not the problem.

Posted by Chris , Isabel, Lea, and Elizabeth at Monday, December 10, 2007 10:36:11

Mr.Rojas and K.J i know you to are "gallantly" defending your cause and student dictator's but really? Do you two expect anyone to believe that students weren't committing lewd acts. I was there i saw two girls start grinding on my friend and than stick his hand up their skirts. So he got to finger two girls: one in front and the one who stood behind him.

Posted by Lois Lane at Monday, December 10, 2007 12:25:45

Hey I can freak from 4pm to 12 am. I love to get it nasty like X-tina Agulera on speed. I hate to admit it but I'm a freak of the industry and when the dance was over someone blew their wad. So hey don't get on the nerds of the paper for reporting how i act. I admit it i love the attention and even though they didnt use my name come on we all know who it was.YEAH!
FREAKS OF THE INDUSTRY!
I've got my candy and Mr.Rojas i can do what i want I'm a big girl now.

Posted by Freak Monsta come and get me! at Monday, December 10, 2007 12:31:39

Seriously?

We're big kids now and we're not going to square dance when we goto any dances. I don't doubt that there was grinding. But and "orgy cycle"?. C'mon people.

Posted by Cafe Girl at Thursday, December 13, 2007 20:09:10

welll.... winterball totally sucked and wasnt fun.

Posted by students. at Saturday, December 15, 2007 17:17:00

yeah i was a senate at the meeting too, and i heard nothing of an orgy circle.

and CONSTANT supervision at the winterball really made the dance a drag.

freaking and having sex are two different things. i'm sure you can tell the difference administration.

Posted by jlhs student at Wednesday, January 02, 2008 23:26:53

It seems as if our young people have lost their respect for their own sanctity. Instead of looking for the reason why, or looking to regain it, young people are being convinced by their friends and peers to degrade their bodies and be proud. Freaking is not dancing, and instead of JL highschoolers being creative and inventive, they are mastubating on their schoolmates and exploiting their sexuality. Why? Don't you know what you do today makes you who you are tomorrow?

Posted by SuperSmileyfaceGirl at Thursday, January 15, 2009 22:21:32

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